Once again I've translated a recent online conversation, this time between MALICE MIZER founders Yu~ki and Mana. This is from the Moi-même-Moitié website, not what was posted in the Moitié Online Salon. The link for what I translated is here: https://moi-meme-moitie.com/?tid=5&mode=f65
I did this because online translation programs miss a bit of what is actually said, and some nuances and ways of speaking are lost. I am not a trained translator so I may miss something here and there. But I do spend time checking and also finding out a bit about cultural references that I may not know. Along with knowing a little bit. I've added a few explanations here and there, since some words and phrases may not be familiar to everyone, using () for this, or just filling in missing words to make more sense also using (). I've tried to keep punctuation and all close to what was originally written. I hope people enjoy this, since there is a bit that doesn't make it through using just machine translation.
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To celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the brand Moi-même-Moitié, established in 1999 by guitarist Mana of MALICE MIZER/Moi dix Mois, this is the special content of the online salon "Mana-sama x compelling conversations with famous guests".
This time, this long-awaited person!
MALICE MIZER bassist Yu-ki Earl arrived.
Because of their long relationship, Mana's conversation is now rarest among rare!
Don't miss the precious words that Yu-ki Earl says about fashion.
(Moi-même-Moitié Transcriber/ Mizuko Honda)
--When you met, what kind of clothing did you each wear for personal wear?
Mana: Since my hair was very long and I was wearing women's high-heeled shoes, I think my personal clothing looked quite suspicious. Weren't they?
Yu~ki: Mana-chan's plain clothes were an image that will never change with me. He wore a wide-brimmed hat and wore sunglasses.
Mana: Certainly. At that time I was so thin that I was mostly wearing women's clothing. Actually.
Yu ~ ki: That's right. So was I.
Mana: Yu~ki-chan was wearing women's clothing too?
Yu ~ ki: I was wearing them. Because I was thin at that time (laughes), and there wasn't much that I was interested in with ready made men's clothing.
Mana: That's right.
Yu ~ ki: Then surely, go to ladies (clothing) for design.
Mana: That it was. After all, what they made in men's (clothing) was big. When I wanted to wear something with a shaped waist, I had to look for it in ladies. Well, I was a woman. So I went to a shop for women.
Yu-ki: Also stage costumes at that time, might have been more of a female role (style) than now, Mana-chan.
Mana: Was that so?
Yu~ki: What I mean, it is closer to the realistic clothing women wear now. Suits. It is like the line of the body is shown. You liked wearing skirts above your knee?
Mana: Because it was the Bubble era. It might have been a little Juliana (smiles). (Juliana's was a famous discotheque in Tokyo where fashion like "bodycon" was worn)
The impression of Yu-ki-chans's regular clothing is that he is a mature man wearing nice blue jeans.
Yu~ki: N-fu-fu-fu (laughing)
Mana: I, while I did not wear blue jeans, it was not a genre to shy away from, Yu~ki-chan looked stylish when wearing something coordinated. What you do to dress well, it's impressive.
Yu ~ ki: I see.
Mana: Certainly, was it Lee? (Lee brand jeans)
Yu ~ ki: That's right. In fact, it was a terribly short time when I wore jeans, but it was my one time boom (trend) for myself. There might have been a short period of time wearing jeans a lot. My nickname was Lee at that time (laughs)
Mana: Yes!
Yu ~ ki: I was suffering from it (the nickname) not only being (related to) jeans but also (it being related to) Bruce Lee.
Mana: I, probably decided not to challenge blue jeans in my life. Without self confidence that they would look good.
Yu ~ ki: In those days, members were wearing plain clothes with shoes with high soles. When it happened just to balance (with the others) I was forced to wear platforms different from my usual (shoes) for example. So, I mean, I specifically could not aesthetically allow the sole part to be seen.
Mana: Yeah.
Yu ~ ki: Then, I decided to choose boot-cut (pants), so that moved into denim. Pantaloon style. Mana-chan wore black pants at that time, had a strong shirt image. Paisley pattern.
Mana: That's right. Paisley, I was wearing it since I was a middle school student. (laughs)
Yu~ki: I like it (laughs)
Mana: I bought it at a department store. (laughs)
Yu~ki: fu fu fu
Mana: I guess, I had a strange addiction to paisley, mysteriously.
Yu ~ ki: Why?
Mana: I wonder if I liked paramecium.
Yu~ki: (laughs)
Mana: Perhaps I was sensually attracted to paramecium. From the time I was a middle school student I preferred to wear paisley clothing. I haven't worn it recently. When I came to Tokyo, I asked costumer Oba-san to make a kotatsu table cover that was velvet on the front and paisley on the back. I liked it.
――Did you ever go out and buy clothes together?
Yu~ki: We did not...
Mana: Yeah, in the first place we did not go shopping together. Maybe I've never been (shopping) with Yu~ki-chan.
Yu~ki: We used to go to meals together a lot.
Mana: Yeah. Did Yu~ki-chan often go clothing shopping with Közi?
Yu~ki: Yeah, Közi was the most often. For example, I went around to the innovative puller (finding) DC brand thrift stores. Why thrift stores, it was because I didn't have any money when I first started the band. I often went to Ebisu or Shibuya. So, I bought second hand some expensive brands such as Issey or Garçons.
Mana: You wanted to wear cool clothes even at that time.
Yu~ki: That's right. At that time, LUNA MATTINO and other brands were quite popular.
Mana: That was fashionable.
Yu~ki: But it was expensive. So I would get it second hand. At that time, many foreign artists wore really nice LUNA MATTINO.
Mana: It was even (fashionable) as a costume.
Yu~ki: Yeah. It's a time when to those in that era a little something gorgeous was popular. Such as Versace. Even Mana-chan's stage outfit, was there a suit with a little Versace atmosphere?
Mana: It was still the Bubble (era). Somehow.
Yu~ki: Yeah.
Mana: But the world was Bubble, but the band wasn't at all in the Bubble, it was very tough to try to find regular clothing that had that gorgeous feeling.
Yu~ki: I always wanted commitment to always show how I liked visuals. Not only music. There was a strong part of that commitment to all the things worn, it was hardship.
Mana: Yeah.
Yu~ki: I mean, because I only stuck to the world view on the stage, I was not that disappointed if I wore jeans and a T-shirt when leaving the venue. I had a hard time until I met Oba-san. I think our very first meeting was with Mana-chan.
Mana: Yeah. I don't quite remember any more when when I referred (members) to (Oba-san).
Yu~ki: It was the Revival Drama..., wasn't it at that time of shooting in Ebisu? (Outside the restaurant
at Yebisu Garden Place)
Mana: I was trying to do the story of the Revival Drama as large scale.
Yu~ki: At that time, Oba-san had not been asked to make (a costume) for me, and I have a memory of preparing a tailcoat myself.
Mana: Oh ~! In the image of Gary Oldman, to say.
Yu~ki: Yes yes.
Mana: So, was that the first time of the beard?
Yu~ki: Yes. It was around that time.
Mana: Your beard in the photos of the Revival Play caused a rumble in the band industry.
Yu~ki: Nfufufu. I thought about the various concepts at Mana-chan's house, inside that (house) the word "beard" came up.
Mana: Yup. Yeah. At that time, we had a lot of talk with members about how to bring out individual personalities. Because I was the female role from the beginning, after it was the important point to shake the direction of personalities of male team which were there.
Yu~ki: Me specifically (personally) in the meantime, I was making visuals in a lovely atmosphere. This was right in the initial days of MALICE MIZER, and in the previous band. A neutral image. That was the type that was common in bands. At that time, the visual system was makeup as such.
Mana: That's right.
Yu~ki: I wanted to show my personality somehow, I think I started thinking. It would be what is my original what I could only do. This came out of the“beard". Also color, originally yellow color or brown color or earth color that I liked, I decided to go with a yellow image since no one was wearing that, I think everywhere it was a strange time.
Mana: That's right.
I remember, I came out to Tokyo from Osaka and out to do MALICE MIZER, the first beautiful shooting maybe was taken at the place Morgana (live house in Mitama), they were placed in SHOXX or something.
Yu~ki: Yeah.
Mana: And then a friend, "Mana-chan's band OO (voluntary restraint *on mentioning the band name*) I wonder are there two people". Ghan! That made me.
(A little difficulty with this but I think Mana was saying that there was another musician who looked similar, based on what was said after. Perhaps the friend thought Mana was in two bands at the same time?)
Yu~ki: Ah~. Maybe it was felt the way of hair was raised up was similar. Separated from the middle and fluffy and stand up feeling? A bit of bangs and sides are long and the back looks short.
Yu~ki: It was time to start making originals, and it was time for greedy things to grow. You don't want to imitate someone, you don't want to. Do you want to bring about an innovative revolution? Because it is useless unless original is always made, I think it was a time to be greedy and more and more seedlings to bud, inside all members. It was not good when I imitated someone, I did not want to. I mean we wanted to cause an innovative revolution.
Mana: So, (you) woke up the beard revolution.
Yu~ki: Yup. It was pros and cons (laughs).
Mana: That's right.
Yu~ki: It was said it would be better for me not to have a beard.
Mana: Because there was the concept of “visual system = beautiful thing” was a basic premise for both people who were fans and people in the band. You came there and I thought “Oh, beard!?”
Yu~ki: That's right.
Mana: The beard, did you grow it from the onset?
Yu~ki: Well I...no, I affixed it. There were increasing variations of things to put on (laughs) like wings.
Mana: Right.
My make-up, it has a certain degree of standards. But you Yu~ki-chan are very good, did you come to change your make-up from time to time?
Yu~ki: That's right.
Mana: I remember a time when Yu~ki-chan's eyebrows looked like this? (hand gesture as to how they looked)
Yu~ki: Ahhh (yes yes)
Mana: So, a little while ago I was told by an another acquaintance, "Yu~ki-san's eyebrows, they are like the handlebars of a (Harley) motorcycle!".
Yu~ki: (laughs)
Mana: You Yu~ki-chan are really good, you were trying novel attempts like bang bang (rapidly). Wearing glasses over. (This may be that Yu~ki wore glasses as part of the costume sometimes, or maybe he drew glasses on his face)
Yu~ki: Well. Because the internet was not widespread at that time, so there were limited ways of doing makeup information and research, I think I was doing a sense of another self. Such as to try and do 2 or 3 eyebrows.
Mana: Your hairstyle, the feeling was far removed from the concept of the visual system.
Yu~ki: Like the Seventy-Three Parts. (laughs)
Mana: Picchiri! (No gap or tightly)
Yu~ki: It was also such a hairstyle.
Mana: I think it had to have been a lot of challenges.
Yu~ki: No, I think all the members attacked. After all everyone was each an individual, I think personalities collided and something original was born.
Mana: Yeah.
I simply wanted to pursue the ultimate beauty anyway, I always felt like searching for it. I didn't have that big of a challenge, thoroughly more beautiful, I wonder if I was chasing more beautiful like (I was) chasing the wind.
Yu~ki: Mana-chan is, a narrow (focused) and deep person. Rather than people who dabble in anything and everything, (Mana) goes deeper than anyone in the direction of what you want with a thorough investigation. I think that is the person who is properly Mana-chan. What was reverse from Mana-chan or rather whether that was to compliment a different approach like me (and) like Kozi. Was it not a good balance?
Mana: That's right. In the genre of visual system, I think originally there was a direction that was "neutral", in my case I penetrated through the neutral, I think my aim of the phase was to be more feminine, throughout, So the things I wore became more and more feminine. Strange story, To not be dressed or change clothes in a place where there were members was embarrassing! It was like a feeling that emerged (smiles)
Yu~ki: Fu-o-fu-o-fu-o-fu-o. (maybe this is laughing) Here too, when I occasionally witnessed I got this strange heart beat.
Mana: Somehow, I ended up a girl. Heart too.
The rest of the conversation can be seen at the Moi-même-Moitié Online Salon, by subscribing at that site here https://lounge.dmm.com/detail/1686/
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